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[Elizabeth Lindsay]

In general, people would not do that.
However,  in Queensland, last year a couple were scheduled to have their marriage on a Friday. The bride's father died suddenly earlier in the week and the only available date for the funeral was on the Friday, so they held the funeral in the morning and went ahead with the wedding in the afternoon.

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Getting married on the same day on which your mother is buried? You wouldn't do that today, and you certainly wouldn't have done that in the 1700s. That would have been an outrage.

Looking at FamilySearch, you are right, both events were on the same day. Are you sure the burial is for the right Mary POSTLETHWAITE? I must admit though that I couldn't see another burial for a suitable Mary POSTLETHWAITE in Cumberland.

Very strange.

Petra


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Hi Petra,

I think that Mary, widow of James Postlethwaite, was buried at Crosscanonby on 5th October 1775.  This is the same date as her daughter Molly's marriage to Hugh James, so an awful coincidence.  (I think mother Mary's maiden name was Stockdale who married at Broughton-in-Furness on 7th May 1741).

I would be surprised if the will of James wasn't well known to the family.  Both daughters Mary (Molly) and Agnes (wife of John Inman), were bequeathed the houses they each lived in, together with £400.  Younger son William was to get the estate at Dalton after his mother's Mary's death.  I guess it is possible that this all happened well before the Admon bond was signed, as otherwise, why didn't they put pressure on Thomas to get the Admon Bond signed?

According to the Admon Bonds, James left £600 and son Thomas £2000.

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Hi Pete,



Thanks for the interesting details!



A thought about the late probate (or rather administration): Maybe everybody in the family assumed that James left everything to his widow. When Mary died, the children when clearing out their mother's house found the will which had never been proved. So Thomas, as the named executor, got it done at that point.



Do you know when Mary died? If it was in 1794 then my above theory would be a viable explanation.



Petra



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Hi Nev,



Thanks for this:



"Thursday last, at Cannonby church, Mr. Hugh James, surgeon, at Maryport to Miss Molly Postlethwaite, daughter of the late James Postlethwaite Esq. of that place."



I have a copy of the will and Admon bond for father James.  The will is dated 1st May 1774 with the sole executor being his elder son Thomas,  The Admon bond wasn't granted to Thomas  until 23rd June 1794 though.



I haven't found a burial for James yet.  Originally I was looking in the early 1790s, but the marriage announcement suggests he died soon after he signed his will - in 1774 or 1775.



James left the income from an estate at Dalton-in-Furness to support his widow, Mary.  I think he (and a brother William, who also lived in Maryport) moved up from Furness around 1750 - but have no idea who their parents were.



Son Thomas died at Maryport in 1799, a bachelor.  I think he may have been the Thomas Postlethwaite who was MP for the pocket borough of Halesmere in Surrey between 1784 and 1786.  This doesn't explain why he took 20 years to get probate for the will though.



Pete





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Whitehaven  - October 12,  - 1775.




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