[list-cumbria] Carlisle Patriot, 06 Sep 1823 - BMD (1)

Sun Jan 7 22:53:18 UTC 2024

Looking at the complete DKEN list on CASCAT:
https://archiveweb.cumbria.gov.uk/CalmView/TreeBrowse.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&field=RefNo&key=DKEN%2f3
In addition to DKEN/!, there is further information on GRAHHAMs among items
DKEN/3/59-65

The CASCAT catalogue search engine has changed since I was doing my
research. I was then able to drill down further, but I cannot now work out
how to navigate beyond the above. One can do a separate search, but if you
search on GRAHAM, you get 6,292 hits. Searching on Fergus + Graham gave 49,
one of which reveals that in 1821, Crosby Lodge was let to Fergus Jamess
GRAHAM. Searching on Crosby + Graham leads to the same.
I knew that Elizabeth KENNEDY nee DALTON had moved out of Crosby Lodge,
residing for some time in Warwickshire, but perhaps she had only let Crosby
Lodge at that stage. Her son David Dalton KENNEDY, (heir to Craig following
his father's death), was attending Rugby school - initially as a boarder.

Bruce

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 12:00 AM Bruce McDowall <milldriggan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Petra,
>
> I haven't researched the GRAHAMs, but the Carlisle Archive item under
> DKEN/1 states that they were from Kirklinton.
> Drilling down on CASCAT, there is this additional context:
> <head>Administrative History</head><p>Mrs Kennedy's great-grandfather
> was Joseph Graham of Kirklinton; her grandfather James Graham was an
> alderman of the city of Carlisle and served as mayor 1746-1747.</p>
> I think one would need to visit the Archive Centre or otherwise view the
> file to find out if this relates to Fergus James GRAHAM, or just GRAHAM
> ancestors of Mrs Elizabeth KENNEDY (nee DALTON), or both - Fergus James
> GRAHAM being related to her.
>
> I know a fair amount about the KENNEDYs of Craig, but not the DALTONS or
> the GRAHAMs. My initial interest was the correspondence between Col Andrew
> McDOUALL and David KENNEDY, but I was to find this KENNEDY family of great
> interest. It involves some rather sad outcomes, but one daughter,
> Georgiana, married Captain John MALLOY, and became a noted botanist in
> Western Australia. Author, Bernice Barry, has written a book about her, and
> also has a blog with lots of information about this KENNEDY family. She
> drew on the Carlisle Archives for much of her research.
>
> Bruce
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 8:08 PM Petra Mitchinson via list-cumbria <
> list-cumbria at list.cumbriafhs.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Bruce, very interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> I had assumed that Fergus GRAHAM belonged to the GRAHAMs of Netherby –
>> they had a few Ferguses in the family. Do you know whether this Fergus
>> belonged to the Netherby clan?
>>
>>
>>
>> Petra
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* list-cumbria [mailto:list-cumbria-bounces at list.cumbriafhs.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Bruce McDowall via list-cumbria
>> *Sent:* 07 January 2024 02:13
>> *To:* Genealogy email list for Cumbria <list-cumbria at list.cumbriafhs.com>
>> *Cc:* Bruce McDowall <milldriggan at gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [list-cumbria] Carlisle Patriot, 06 Sep 1823 - BMD (1)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 11:56 PM Petra Mitchinson via list-cumbria <
>> list-cumbria at list.cumbriafhs.com> wrote:
>>
>> *Saturday 06 Sep 1823   (p. 4, col. 6)*
>>
>>
>>
>> BIRTH.
>>
>>
>>
>> At Crosby Lodge, near Carlisle, on Monday last, the Lady of Fergus
>> GRAHAM, Esq. of a Son.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>  I figure that these items from FamilySearch reveal the identity of both
>> the lady and her son.
>>
>>
>>
>> Name                                   Fergus James Graham
>>
>> Sex                                        Male
>>
>> Spouse's Name                 Alethea James
>>
>> Spouse's Sex                      Female
>>
>> Event Type                         Marriage
>>
>> Event Date                          18 May 1818
>>
>> Event Place                         Hesket in the Forest, Cumberland,
>> England, United Kingdom
>>
>> Event Place (Original)      Hesket-In-The-Forest, Cumberland, England
>>
>>
>>
>> Name                                   Fergus James Graham
>>
>> Sex                                        Male
>>
>> Father's Name                  Fergus Graham
>>
>> Father's Sex                       Male
>>
>> Mother's Name                Alithea James
>>
>> Mother's Sex                     Female
>>
>> Event Type                         Christening
>>
>> Event Date                          28 Oct 1823
>>
>> Event Place                         Crosby Upon Eden, Cumberland,
>> England, United Kingdom
>>
>> Event Place (Original)      Crosby Eden, Cumberland, England
>>
>>
>>
>> Crosby Lodge was built by David KENNEDY, heir to the Craig estate in
>> Ayrshire. He died in 1819, following a fall from his horse, so he didn't
>> get to inherit Craig. His widow was left with large debts and needed to
>> sell Crosby Lodge. It seems that Fergus James GRAHAM was the buyer.
>>
>> GRAHAM researchers may know more about this.
>>
>> If anyone is interested enough in this, there is a document in the
>> Carlisle Archives which is likely to have further detail of this GRAHAM
>> family:
>>
>> D KEN/1. Graham family of Kirklinton
>>
>> This is one of a large set of documents from David KENNEDY's business and
>> personal correspondence. A few years ago, I was able to use the Archive
>> Centre services to have images of a few of them emailed to me in Australia.
>> The modest fee proved well worth it. My interest at the time was David
>> KENNEDY's close friend, Col Andrew McDOUALL.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
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